Space

[Pug']

what are your thoughts on Space, do u belive there is more than just us and more than just this 1 galaxy?

I believe theres life somewhere out there. millions of lightyears away.

[Pug']

i cant see the images. not loading n i really really wanna see them ,

[Edge-Cution]

But don't worry will never meet other live forms.
Iff there are any other live forms?

[Pug']

there are theres gotta be. i think something will happen thats revolutionary, nuthing that insane has happend for centuries really has is.

[Edge-Cution]

Ok so let's say there is live, but still will never reach the technoligie to travel light speed, even iff we could traffel light speed how on earth are you going to control something that fast?
How on earth do you know how to use the break's.
And most important there is no, material on earth that could handle the pressure let alone, that we could handle such pressure.

The are going very fast with inventing things, still they can't even reach the bottom of the oceans yet and for how long do we have sub's? last few years they didn't make much progress, iff you look back at how fast the things changed in the beginning.

Same with space traffel in the beginning the went very fast with the progress they made, but now the last 10 years they didn't get that far.

And in 15 million years the sun is burned out, so the mayor problem is will be that there will be no humans left to traffel space, unless we could traffel and set up live on pluto.

iff you think 15 million years is a lot, think again the dino's lived over 100 million years.

[2cool.be]

I'm sure captain Kirk will help us out with that Edge. Scotty , beem me up !

[Target]

lolol coolio!

[Edge-Cution]

Wenn a animal is the strongest why the need of evolution?

[Pug']

take men in black... thats basically sayin that we are just f**king ants. i believe in like 200 years or more we will find some amazing... maybe even find life on marz or more

[Edge-Cution]

Ok sure will might meet microscope, a bacteria on mars.
But people thrust me will never meet other live out of this star system.

I know I act like a hulk most of the time or that I'm not smart lol, but there is a BUT, iff we talk about space, space traffel I know some stuff.

For example the closes star system where we might find other live forms is Alpha Centauri, and lucky for us that is also one of the star systems out there where there might be live.
So that's good you think so there is live and it might reach us euh wrong the distance is 4.35 light-years from The sun.
Doesn't seem a lot, still 4.35 LIGHT-years.
Ok let's see hmmm light speed, it's a shame we can't reach light speed.

Maybe in the future euh nope won't happen, why???
Well euh it's pretty simple, (E=M.C2).
Second we don't have the fuel or energy on earth to produce something like light speed, never will happen, because we don't have energy that last forever, and that is what you need, and guess what nothing lasts forever.
And euh we don't even know what would happen, it's more likely you just disapear.

Ok so let's fantasize a bit shall we, a traffel to Alpha Centauri,
it will take, atleast 150-200 years, to get there now.
And they won't send in a human there they will first send probs. problem how will the prob communicate with earth???
I mean light take's 4 years to reach earth, how will sound traffel that far???

It won't, but ok iff we go all star trek or star wars like, and just ditch earth and go look for other live than well 150-200, still don't know how to fuel it, and what type of structure the ship must be made of.

Hope this explains it a bit, don't worry I had the same thought myself untill I start reading books and other stuff about it, and well since my dad is retired it's his full time hobby stars and space.

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Lol yo again guys, missed me? hehe

[Pug']

lol hey there jointe.... discuss space here.

[shorty]

Alright, time for me to make you guys all think me (and my Grandfather) are lunatics.

I know there is other life in the universe. It's very arrogant of us to think that we are the only life forms in the universe. Kinda like it was arrogant of humans to think that the sun and other planets revolved around Earth, in the geocentric model of the universe. But that has since been proven wrong, and we now know that our solar system is heliocentric. Why should the case of whether we're alone or not be any different?

Now to back up that hypothesis, Let's talk about the universe. We are ONE planet in a group of many that orbit ONE star. Our galaxy, The Milky Way, is a spiral galaxy that's composed of BILLIONS of stars. Chances are pretty good that in some of those billions of stars, there will be life on some of their planets. Then, there are BILLIONS of galaxies, or all kinds of shapes and sizes, all over the universe. The numbers are too great to even fathom. The odds are logically very good that there is life on other planets somewhere.

And commenting on what Edge was saying, life has already made contact with Earth. I know this for a fact for 2 reasons. 1) There's too much stuff that's unexplained, and the American Government tried way too hard to cover it up. 2) My Grandfather worked for a company called McDonnell Douglas, and he was one of the head engineers on the Apollo 11 project. He also worked on other Gemini and Apollo Missions. He's a physics major, and I think a minor in engineering maybe. (I'm not bragging, just explaining) He's a brilliant man, and a reliable, experienced source. (Now then, this is why you might think my family is strange.) When he was younger early 20's maybe, he was at a football game (american football not "soccer") -not sure whether the game was high school or uni, irrelevant but anyways- and then all of a sudden this orb-like object flew down toward the crowd and flew over their heads. He said it was like pearly but the color kept changing. He also said there was a whole bunch of people in the stands, and they all saw it too. The government tried to cover it up as a weather experiment, but in this decade (1940's-1950's), we didn't have the technology for stuff like that. Not even close. I for one don't think my grandfather is a lunatic, or that he was hallucinating. Especially cuz he wasn't the only one that saw it, a whole bunch of other people did too.

And another thing to think about. My high school physics teacher told me this idea. Earth is sending radio waves out to space all the time. Any extra-terrestrial life forms would be able to detect those waves if they were anywhere near our solar system. They could then more easily locate Earth, and assuming their technology is more advanced than ours, cuz ya know, they're traveling across space already, what if they decide that our planet can support their species, so they want to conquer it? There would be nothing we could do to stop them. I'm not saying that I particularly believe in this idea. I know it's a little... eccentric. But it IS freaky to think about. How scary would that be?

....See I told you guys that by the end of this post you all will think I'm nuts.

[Pug']

nice shorty.. i totally agree with what ya said. I can see your point of view edge but i just think that theres no way the human race as one can think we are the only people in the solar system or whatever. thats isane. its wrong.

nice shorty

[Edge-Cution]

Never said that there was no live out there even explained that the star system that's close to us, is similar to our sun.
So live is very well possible.

What I think is the problem is space traffel, it's not that simple like I explained, light speed is just not possible, since you don't have the energy source for it never will happen.
And iff you want to traffel with light speed, you wouldn't be able to stear the space shuttle, because one mm to the left or right and you're 100000000 km from you're destenation.
And the thing that also could happen is you just disapeapre.
One moment you're here next moment you don't exist anymore.

Sure we could reach the Alpha Centauri in 150-200 years, the problem is that we don't have material yet that could support a trip nor do we have the energy source that could make a trip like that possible, and we wouldn't have communication, because sound doesn't traffel as fast as light, so iff we are in Alpha Centauri what is 4.75 light years away from earth, it would take sound to traffel atleast over 200 years to reach earth iff it could reach earth, but sound doesn't traffel that far, but iff it could you would talk in the past, the message you get will be over 200 years old.
so communicate will take over 400 to go back and forth atleast can be even more since space shuttle's allready traffel way faster than sound so I think it will atleast take 2000 or it might even be more to reach earth not sure.
15000000:4000= 3750 message between earth and the space ship before the sun goes super nova or burns out.

and think about it even iff we could reach light speed change is 0%, but let's dream a bit closes star system is still over 4 years traffel, and the gap is getting bigger and bigger since the univers is still expanding.

So untill I myself see something I won't believe it, lol very strange few years back I believed in ghosts, UFO's.
Now I'm not so sure anymore because of the facts.

[Edge-Cution]

Ow and don't worry shorty you're not more nuts than any one of the idiots on this forum, take me for example, I pretended I was the Hulk every time I posted .

[Novak]

the speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s

speed of sound at sea level = 340.29 m / s

big differance

[Pug']

i didnt want it to get to deep i started the thred for others to discuss. im just reading and absorbing. not taking part

[shorty]

Edge try looking at it in this perspective: What you have to realize is that technology in a few hundred years will be so amazingly advanced from what it is now. The US is only 230 years old. When we first started out, all we had were horses and buggies (and ships) to travel around. Now we have helicopters, jets/airplanes, cars, trains, etc... I can keep in touch with people around the WORLD almost instantaneously by texting/short messaging their cellular telephone (assuming I have the $$$, lol). What if in 300 years we had super-fast space crafts (which I'm sure will have trained pilots to fly it), and a new way of communication? Even if it would take time to transfer messages, I'm sure by then we'll have discovered a faster way. Sure maybe right now we can't reach Alpha Centauri, but I have confidence in future generations that they can figure it out. Assuming that they don't blow themselves up with a nuclear weapon first, that is.

[Edge-Cution]

Sure we will go faster no doubt in my mind would disagree that.
Still like I explained, doesn't matter how many years we go in to the future there will never be a light speed, so it will still take us atleast 5 years to go to the star system that's close to us, will never reach it faster.

That's just a fact, and the communication part is still the big problem, and the structure we would build the ship from.

There are so many things that would hold us back to traffel that far.

And it will be harder and harder to try and figure out a way.

And no Heli my brain doesn't hurt, wenn I'm working I don't think that much, so it's safe to use my brain now.