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Post by Novak on Sept 26, 2007 16:25:14 GMT 1
Finally time for me to get a new pc but need some help from you guys on what to choose as i aint realy got much idea on what is what i want something that will run the new games very well think i am going to go for intel this time but other than that i aint sure i got about £1500-1700 for the tower then i got to get a monitor and think i will get G15 keyboard too i have been looking at these 3 sites pc specialist herecouger extreme hereand here kompletti bought my last PC from pcspecialist and have been very pleased with it so maybe go back there but if you guys can give me in idea of what to get there is so much to choose from i dont know 1 graphics card or 2 1 hard drive or 2 how much memory what kind of motherboard and all that kind of stuff so any advice would be very greatful thanks sholud have called the thread: A lot of help please
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Post by -=Magpie=- on Sept 26, 2007 18:16:28 GMT 1
Are you building it your self or do you want to buy a full pc or just the tower . Whats your budget ps you don't really need two cards as an ultra will destroy all games out there even the two below that are evil cards . Ive heard great things about overclockers
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Post by Novak on Sept 26, 2007 18:33:57 GMT 1
i want a company to build it, just a tower unless they have a desent monitor and g15 keyboard got about £2000 maximum all in all to get monitor and keyboard too just mainly aint sure about what size psu and memory and mother board how many prosessers duo or quad for graphics think i am going to go for 8800 ultra i will take a look on overclockers thanks
always played consoles but this is a bit more confusing graphics think i am going to go for 8800 ultra
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Post by Novak on Sept 26, 2007 18:56:02 GMT 1
to be honest i am still looking at pc specialist G15 on there is £49 thanks for the help guys might still get the 19" monitor from komplett if the dilivery aint to bad just looked Parcelforce (2-3 days) 6.75 inc. VAT
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Post by Novak on Sept 26, 2007 19:01:41 GMT 1
overclockers looks cheap until you add the VAT a £189 monitor comes to £233.75 time it is delivered
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Post by -=Magpie=- on Sept 26, 2007 19:11:10 GMT 1
Im a great belever in going with who you trust . As then you have an idea what your getting .
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Post by Novak on Sept 26, 2007 19:44:15 GMT 1
i think i will get ti from pc specialist but now the question is what do i get ?
CORSAIR DOMINATOR DDR2 1066MHz 2GB or 4?
32-bit operating system or 64?
vista home or ultimate? whats the differance please
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 2 x 3.0ghz 4mb Cache 1333FSB or Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 4 x 2.6ghz 8mb Cache 1066MHzFSB
Processor Cooling ? needed or not? £14 intel cpu cooler
and what size psu would i need with that please :S
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Post by Novak on Sept 26, 2007 20:31:23 GMT 1
how does this sound? or would you change something?
Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™2 Quad Q6700 (4 X 2.66GHz) 1066MHz FSB/8MB L2 Cache Memory (RAM) 4GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR DDR2 1066MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY Motherboard ASUS® P5N32-E SLI+: Quad-core CPU Ready, NVIDIA® Dual X16 SLI Operating System 64 BIT WINDOWS® VISTA Home Premium (inc CD & License) (£69) USB Options 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS (4 REAR + 2 FRONT) AS STANDARD Memory - 1st Hard Disk 400GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE (7200rpm) 2nd Hard Disk NONE RAID (HDD 1 & 2) NONE 1st CD/DVD Drive 20x DVD±RW/RAM/Dual Layer + Lightscribe (48 x CD-RW) (£16) 2nd CD/DVD Drive NONE Graphics Card 768MB GEFORCE 8800 ULTRA PCI Express + DVI + TV-OUT 2nd Graphics Card NONE Sound Card 6 Channel RealTek ALC883 Audio (Standard on P5N-E SLI) Modem NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND Network Facilities ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT Floppy Disk Drive NONE Memory Card Reader INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (READS XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) Case Stylish Silver/Black Trident case + 2 front USB Power Supply & Case Cooling 700W Quiet Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£79) Processor Cooling STANDARD CPU COOLER Firewire & Video Editing 2 x IEEE 1394a FIREWIRE ONBOARD (1 in back + 1 on board) TV Card NONE Monitor NONE 2nd Monitor NONE DVI Cable NONE Keyboard & Mouse Logitech® G15 Gaming Keyboard with Backlit LCD Display (£49) Mouse NONE Speakers NONE Printer NONE Surge Protection NONE Webcam & VoIP NONE Media Center Kit NONE Anti-Virus NONE Office Software NONE Warranty 1 Year Return-to-Base incl 1 Year Free Collect & Return: £5 Delivery Standard Insured Delivery to UK Mainland (Mon-Fri 8am-6pm) (Free) Quantity 1 £1631 inc VAT and Delivery
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Post by Target on Sept 26, 2007 21:36:15 GMT 1
Well right now I dont have a clue if 2 or 4 cores are the best. Quad is probably faster but wont that mess up with drivers? I'm pretty sure there was problems for players using multiple cores, especially with AMD. Not that it got anything to do with yours though. Only thing I'd change is the HDD's m8. Get two of them, one small say 80gb for Windows, music and such. Then another 400 or 500 for storage and installation. You should also take a look at that case, I dunno but I couldnt find a picture of it? What's important is what cooling it got, if it's no fans in the front or back it will get really hot in there. Best would be getting a case with two 120mm fans. - Antec NINE HUNDRED Gamers ATX Caseis not the best looking case, but it will definetly keep your computer cold. Bad thing is that it's pretty small inside.
- AeroCool ExtremeEngine is both good looking and cold. 140mm fan in front and 250 on the side. Inside it's ok, got space for everything. I'd love to see the version I got, AeroEngineII but they dont have it anymore.
- APLUS Twin Engine is a beast when it comes to cooling. I recommend this one. It's pretty big too so you have lots of room.
When it comes to monitor you have to think about response time, 2ms is what you want. No more then that or it'll be to slow for ya.
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Post by Novak on Sept 26, 2007 22:10:04 GMT 1
thanks mind i like this APLUS Twin Engine is a beast when it comes to cooling. I recommend this one. It's pretty big too so you have lots of room.
but when i go to pc builder on komplett i cannot choose that case as one of the options
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Post by Target on Sept 27, 2007 8:27:42 GMT 1
I think you just have to email the support
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Post by Novak on Sept 27, 2007 16:51:12 GMT 1
e-mailed them this morning but no reply yet
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Post by Target on Sept 27, 2007 21:26:19 GMT 1
Hmm, well then you could always change place. Just pick the same parts
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Post by Novak on Sept 27, 2007 21:34:33 GMT 1
i have found a pc shop about 1 hour from me that build pcs so i have sent them an email too see what they can do for me they have the APLUS Twin Engine case there too can choose anything from here and they put it in a pc for you but still i dont know what to choose so i e-mail my buget and asked for the best possible gaming pc for me money hope they get back soon if any of you guys have a minute would you tell me what you would get or would you not get it from there thanks (i have only ever bought 1 pc before ) X-casethis is what i had so far 1 A-Case Twin Engine BB With 2 x 250mm fans - No Psu Black - Psu Not Required (-) 1 Seasonic M12 Modular 600W Silent ATX2.0 Power Supply (-) 1 Build Charge For Custom pc - Buy the bits and we build it. (-) 1 INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6850 1333FSB SKT775 (-) 1 ASUS 768MB GeF 8800GTX ULTRA 2xDVI PCI-E SLI - (-) 1 MAXTOR HD SERIAL 250GB UDMA 300 7200RPM 8MB (-) 1 SEAGATE HD SERIAL 500GB UDMA 300 7200RPM 8MB OEM (-) 1 ASUS DVD±RW/DL S-ATA 18x6x18x8x DRW-1814BLT RET BLACK LIGHTSCRIBE (-) 2 GEIL 2GB DDR2 1000 CL4.0 DUAL CHANNEL 1 CREATIVE SB X-Fi XTREME MUSIC 7.1 OEM (-) 1 ASUS SKT-775 BLITZ FORMULA SPECIAL EDITION 1333FSB (-) 1 Microsoft OEM Windows Vista Home Premium - 32 Bit- OEM (-) Sub Total £1,272.84 Click For Total £ Inc. or sholud i get CORSAIR MEMORY DDR3 2GB 1333 2X240 9-9-9-27 64MX8 SILV (TWIN3X2048-1333C9DHX G)
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Post by -=Magpie=- on Sept 27, 2007 21:49:25 GMT 1
See how much more it is for 4 gig as it will full proof pc on any new games stuff I'm usings £50 (OCZ 6400)for 2 gig . i don't run the most expensive stuff and the GEIL is nice ram used in the past .
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Post by Novak on Sept 28, 2007 8:22:50 GMT 1
Only thing I'd change is the HDD's m8. Get two of them, one small say 80gb for Windows, music and such. Then another 400 or 500 for storage and installation. do i need 2 operatins systems if i have 2 hard drives? komplett got back to me shame they said Dear Sir, Thanks for your contact. I'm afraid that due to availability and compatibility issues we cannot offer any component in our builds that is not available on our build list. Sorry if this is inconvenient. Regarding your build - it looks fine but I would probably get a more powerful PSU (maybe 600w) as the 8800 Ultra uses a lot of power to operate and it's better to have a little bit more than less when it comes to power. I hope this helps. looks like i might be getting it from X-case
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Post by -=Magpie=- on Sept 28, 2007 9:21:06 GMT 1
No only one op as the other will be your D drive and you can just save things to it by choosing that drive . If you were to fit it you would have to format it (dead easy) but if its coming built with soft wear it will have been done . Cases are funny things you never really look at them but that never stops you wanting a certain one the thing now is they need to be big as the x29s and the 8800s are big cards . spent silly cash on mine (Lian Li PC-A10A) and its plain silver but has loads of room .
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Post by Novak on Sept 28, 2007 16:54:59 GMT 1
it will be coming built in i hope they aint got back to me yet from x-case but if they do i think i am either going to get this case Twin Engine SS With 2 x 250mm fans - No Psu Silver or Aplus Case Monolize - No psu 2 x 250mm Side Fans top one i think i will go for but maybe in black still going to get monitor from komplett thanks for the help shold i get vista 64 or 32bit? does it matter?
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Post by Target on Sept 28, 2007 22:56:22 GMT 1
Hah, one I took my case I was thinking either Soprano DX or Monolize. But after some thinking I went for the Soprano. When you have both fans on the side like that they just pump air into the case which is the point, but the hot air doesnt have a place to get out of. Other then the small vents on back and side panel. When you got 1 fan in back and one 1 front, the airflow goes straight through your case and cools everything down. That case is pretty cool though
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Post by Novak on Sept 29, 2007 10:14:51 GMT 1
Hah, one I took my case I was thinking either Soprano DX or Monolize. But after some thinking I went for the Soprano. neither of them cases are on the build list of cases i would get it from komplett but cant see a case i like how did you manage to get that case? X-case still aint got back to me
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